Mr. Graziosi's Better Business Bureau Rating???

I ignore it.

Its that simple. So many things in life have the worst and the best ratings/reviews. I will not make the time to listen to most reviews unless it is from someone I personally know or I have just met that person and I have seen their results.

Everything, product, good, or services out there will either work or not work for your desired application.

Most importantly you have hit the head on the nail, Dean's training is top notch. His PFRERN Book should sell for at least $4,500. I say that because I paid $4,500 for a 3 day live training class on wholesaling/assignment of contract from Rich Dad Training.

Now don't get me wrong the 3 day live class was worth every penny, but Dean's black book was even more valuable to me because the information at the 3 day class was all in his book and then some!

Jake Greer

The rating could be that way because of Deans competition trying to discredit his business in order to improve their own.
I for one don't really care what it says. I used what I learned from him and others on this site amd made it happen. If nothing else, for the lousy 24.00 you spent on the book, what do you have to loose. The so called gurus are asking for 300. and up for a program that doesnt teach you anything. Deans books have more info and walks you through and he even provides this free site and to boot, all the contracts you need .
Be your own judge. I am in no way speaking for Dean, this is just my opinion.
god luck
Richie.

Like I said in one of my posts that is still up on the homepage, I bought them all too, and none worked and where are they today? I don't see them updating material, giving us free tools to use, so what if it costs 3-4 K for success academy? might not be that much now anyway, I made that off my first deal, and it's carrying me through to more. The books, tools, wevsite, DG family are all priceless, you can't put a price on success.

If you go and look at the complaints and see how many were handle, I think he did a great job. You have to realize how many people buy into this program and don;t do anything with it then get mad because no money ever shows up in the mail box. I spent 20 k and they have done everything they said they would plus more.

Randy

I know when there is a complaint Dean and the team do everything ppossible to resolve it. As Randy said many people read the book and do nothing. He is the best for sure, and your son will be financially free at 30 if he follows Dean's steps.

Jeremy

Try searching "Professional Marketing International" in Utah. That is the name of the online business that runs the Success Academy. I just looked it up and it has an A+ rating. How about that?

To each his own. We all have to find our own path, that's for sure.

I too saw that F rating before I signed up for the academy. And, I questioned it vigorously because I was about to spend a huge sum of money. But, what I found, was so many more POSITIVE things about him and his company out there, that the BBB rating was by far overshadowed by the good reviews of his program. He's looking for negative. If you look for negative on anything , you can find it. Tell him to try looking for the positive. Tell him to read all the testimony here and around the internet. He'll find a lot more good things to say than that failing BBB rating. And, like Linda said, PMI (the success academy's rating is TOP NOTCH).

There will always be naysayers out there and people who want to make others look bad. And, like PPs said, there will be people out there who expect something to happen by reading the book and doing nothing else. We all know that doesn't work. Tell him YOUR personal experience with it. Tell him about all of our personal experience with him. Tell him to come here, and to see all the people doing deals and using the methods.

I'll bet that if we all bought ALL of Dean's books and attended ALL of his BC's, Seminars and Trainings and then went home and resumed being a "couch potato" (Not Applying what he has shared with us, his experience & knowledge) we'd probably all badmouth Dean. In order to become successful we must apply (TAKE ACTION!) with these materials and knowledge. If it was just a matter of buying the books and attending the classes everyone would be wealthy in REI. He can't put YOUR ACTION into a book or classroom training (or even an EDGE Event)....only you can guarantee your success OR failure, determined by your level of commitment, perseverence and determination. Become successful and BLAME YOURSELF!

Cher said it best...."If it came in a bottle, we'd all have it."

Some will and some won't.

Thanks for sharing guys...I agree and will pass all of your responses along to my nephew!

Ron

Competition always finds ways to discredit their competitor. You can't always believe what you read or hear. Follow your heart and mind and obviously it will take you there! Things happen for a reason, you are here expressing your concerns. Hop on board and you will not be disappointed.

We are family!

Peace and Blessings,

Sheila

I read Dean's "YourTown" book and now starting to read "millionaire: and "right Now" He should have titled it "Right Here Right Now" . The material and access to information and support that is available are impressive. I can't go by others oppinions who I don't even know. Like Dean stresses over and over again, the books are not going to "spit out" deals for you. I am scheduled for a phone call from a coach on 7/20. My anxiety is apparent as I can feel it. Nothing in life is imminent except "death and taxes". I know this is going to take a great deal of focus, passion, and drive, to work. I have all three. I have read many forms on this site. Many are doing well and some are not doing so well. Though I am a bit concerned of a potential failure, I have to somehow break that barrier. I had the same concerns when I went to school for Massage Therapy for a year. I felt like I was going to medical school based on what NYS requires yo uto know. I passed the 3 hour NYS test to earn my license. Still practice Massage and have a few customers. I had the same concerns when I studied Real Estate Law for my current held Associate Brokers Lic and passed 2 NYS tests to achieve that.
Now, here I am again going on what I believe will be quite an adventure in learning how to embark on a Real Estate industry that for some reason is going to feel like I'm standing in the middle of a Hurricane. I know this will not be as easy as it may appear. I have always like challenges especially when I earm something from that challenge. This is another challenge that I choose to take on. So I look to you, my fellow future friends and potential business partners, am I looking and thinking to deeply about all of this? Is my way of thinking going to be a detriment to making this happen? I'd like to hear some of your thoughts when you first started out on your journey.
Thanks
John - Liveadream

Most people don't know that the BBB is comprised of companies that pay to be members. For the most part, it is like the fox watching the chicken house. How many scammer's companies were rated A before they fell. Enron. WorldCom. Bernie Madoff. Therefore, what good is the rating EXCEPT to put other people mind at ease that you are rated. You must do your own research from people that have used the service and make up your own mind. Stop allowing agencies to make up your mind for you.

Like bill sead, do your own pokin' around and you'll find out everything you need to know. When I first looked into this Dean guy online, I actually had a hard time trying to find 'legitimately' bad about this guy or the books and programs he offered. I ran several searches using other well known names and I found a common thread among all the searches, most of the results are either people who reviewed the books and called it junk without actually doing anything from them, or they used the name and just tagged "scam" to it and funneled people to them just to get their version of what a "real" money-making opportunity they had to hock.

In any case, I found that anything anyone had to say about Dean and his books/courses in a negative light, most often turned out to be just another less than trustworthy company trying to sell you mold and call it cotton candy!

But that's just my 2 cents (less PITI of course)

If someone is looking for an excuse then usually anyone will work.

If someone uses a BBB rating to justify them NOT being involved well than that's a pill they have to swallow and probably just not that motivated to change their circumstances anyway.

You have to base all your decisions on facts and not opinion.

I can guarantee most the negative hits where from someone that didn't have the 'whatever it takes' attitude and entered in with the 'well I will TRY it' and see how it goes. (TRY is probably the second most crippling word beside CAN'T). They are the same people that NEVER take responsibility and always looking to blame someone else for their shortcomings.

There will ALWAYS be naysayers, broke mentalities, defeating mindsets, and negative people.

Yeah you could google Dean and probably see tons of negative junk, you can also google Jesus Christ and get negative junk too. You have to decide who you'll listen to. I for one never cared to read that junk. I didn't give a rip what the loser had to say, the person that quit.....I wanted to know what the winner had to say. The one that got in there and made it happen!

The smart and successful seek council, the broke and average seek opinions.

just my .02

Make it happen,
Jen

REI is not for everyone; it takes hard work, discipline, and time. There are many people who want to make a quick buck. They think that if they buy DG's book it will make them millionaires-by just half-reading it! They never put in any effort, and then look for someone to blame for their failures.

There are people who do succeed in rei, and there are people who fail, but the opportunity is the same for everyone.

Learning and progressing every day,
Valerie

Hi all,

After being in one area or another of the customer service business for more almost 30 years, I can tell you that people are far more likely to complain when they're unhappy about a product or service than they are to praise. It's a sad fact of human nature, but that just the way it is.

I'm new to the DG family, and so far, I have been delighted with what I've seen of DG's commitment to his customers / students. You can't generate this kind of community without doing SOMETHING right!

In the end, while it's good to be cautious. the only opinion that really matters is your own. I'd say, trust your gut. See what other people are saying, and take the complaints filed with agencies like the BBB with a grain of salt.

Hope this helps.

It is most likely a false reading/rating that they are looking at. I've learned (as also mentioned in previous posts to this) that the BBB rating can be manipulated way too easily. The question is what are Dean's BBB Accreditations ? Is his an Accredited business, non-accreditated... where does he stand?

Truth is, we are all responsible for our own successes and failures. Whose to blame if YOU don't take action? The liability for Dean is to be accurate about what he rights about. That's all. The fact that he explains that what he's writing about is for the current market conditions is a plus. Did the old time GURUs sell you something that didn't work today? Did they say it would for today's buyer's market or did they just say that "THIS" is what I did and it made me money? I've paid my money and still haven't made my first deal. There's no doubt in my mind that it's my fault that that's happened because I haven't done a number of the things that the RBBP has me now doing. When I went over my previous materials, it was there too. I just chose not to do it for some reason or another. I'm on a course now to fix that. How about you?

I believe the "Blame Game" is what's wrong with our society today. Take responsibility for yourselves people because the only person you should blame or credit your situation on is staring at you in the mirror.

That's just my $.02

Andy Sager
DG's AndyS

...just have him come on here and read. this is real-time, real people ... he's already learning a great deal and making wise decisions for his future. Wise to check it out at BBB but not wise to let that be the one and only source of input to his future. I've heard many times, Only 5-10% of entire population are making all the money, and we know why. It takes effort!! ... and those reporting negatively to BBB didn't put in the effort.

I wish I was 19 and had this material in my hands!!!

Better now than 10, 20 or 30 yrs down the road.

Besides, we knew everything when we were 19 and wouldn't have acted on it anyways lol.

and rip off report,complaints board, etc

NO business has 100% satisfaction. Theres always going to be someone who whines and complains usually due to their own lack of action and just being lazy.

Dean Graziosi has put alot of work into his books, courses and this website top help people get better out of their life, but, it just doesnt magically happen...YOU have to learn and TAKE ACTION. IT WORKS.

Save your college expenses and teach your kids REI, its pays!!

Thanks Dean and staff for all you do to help everyone!

My experience with the BBB is that if your a member you can get away with anything. I have 35 years in business and ran into a situation where a business was trying to rip me off and I my first response was to go to the BBB. What a joke,I won my case over this business and all they did was sent him letter telling them to not follow this course of action in future business dealings.Years later I had a friend that worked for one of BBB online companies. I had discussed this past incident with my friend and he related to me that as long as you were a member in good standing that you would always have the BBB on your side even if you are wrong. In other words(money talks over right or wrong)
kris

The BBB is someones opinion. You can listen to the BBB about Deans rating those who are not using his teachings or you can listen to the people who are using his teachings. Only thing I can say is Blah, Blah, and Blah.

Shonna A.

I just can't fathom that anyone would question his teachings his ethics....
the man is so legitimate it's unreal....

CLICK ON SUCCESS STORIES ABOVE AND WATCH FOR YOURSELF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish I was 19 and had this material in my hands!!! JHOLDEN you are so right....

i've been interested since i was in high school and just now getting started...

man where i would be if i had started back then....i'd be a dean graziosi

happy investing..
WALT

Wolfgang Puck or whatever his name is, the chef thats all over the TV COOKING, Was on a report on TV about the BBB and he got the same rating as dean because he wouldn't pay to JOIN there ranking system!!! There are way to many positve people on this site to be believing a business that was supposedly started by AL CAPONE!!! So WHATEVER !!! GO DEAN!!!!!!