The learning curve

The learning curve

AKK! just lost a huge post because of an errant click. No auto save or anything like that I guess? Ok, Here goes again. Just got shot down trying to do some "foot-work". Thought I was really flying along and decided to start my network list when I called a friend of mine who is a Mortgage Broker. Figured I pre-qualify myself since my credit score has improved to a decent rating. Well,a conventional loan is way out of the question for me and I think I was pretty much expecting what I heard from my friend, but to actually "hear" it!..... Not only that, through all the questioning that, of course has to be asked, I could sort of sense a "you must be crazy wanting to do what you are doing" kind of attitude on the other side of the phone. My friends'(Mortgage Broker) wife is a realtor and thinking maybe I could get her to send me some info on foreclosure and or REO property he pretty much told me that they don't bother with that because it is waaay too expensive and time consuming to be involve with and not only that- only people with a LOT of MONEY and a LOT of TIME can be involved with that stuff, so, asking that really made me feel foolish. I am really going to have to stay close now and keep focused because information like that, comming from "professional" people is devastating. I know Dean covers all this and I have read about it but actually confronting it in the "real world" shook me up. I think that is what discouraged me the first time I tried this in 1992 with another organization. I didn't tell anyone though and just gave up. I am not going to do that this time! Ahh.... there, ok, I feel a little better but if I can get a little support here(sympathy...EMPATHY? yeah, that's it!) please feel free:)Tonight I go to my first meeting of the real estate investors club I joined here- the monthly meeting. To be honest though, I am feeling pretty self-conscious at this point so I'm not sure if I should even show up. Almost feel inside that somthing might happen to me like in "Carrie" Yeah, but that's how my brain works?! A lot to overcome I guess? I will put on my best face and do my best. I made the commitment. I won't quit like last time! "I will do the work and not quit". Ok Thanks all, and thanks Dean. Just keep moving ahead eh?

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There you go, don't give up.

There you go, don't give up. Go to the meeting and tell us how it went, give some details, write down what you hear interesting through out the meet and tell us about it, the more info you get the more prepared you are...

I myself am a very shy person, but i do find myself getting up and asking the stupidest questions in front of 50+,160+ and at one point 1,000+ audience. so deff get involved, the more involved you get the more you learn, the more you learn the better you get at it and it starts by just getting involved ; )

hope this helps in anyway and plz plz plz!! post up anything from the meet tonight ; )


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Wow!

Yes, a miracle. I went to the meeting anyway... even though I felt like a "real loser" after getting the depressing information from my "Mortgage Broker"friend. I went, telling myself "I will not quit no matter what" (PMI question to me asking to use in a sentence "why I will not quit....." IrvinDs, it was an unbelievable miracle!I was able to accomplish a ton of the excersises that are from the education program (PMI) Even though I ended up sitting right next to a jerk, I told myself not to do what I usually do, when I get discouraged/frustrated and leave. I hung in and commited to stay till the end. Well, I lost the jerk, exused my self to go to the restroom, and found another seat when I got back. I ended up sitting next to one of the instructors who was part of the "new member orientation". After the meeting we got to talking.(Network Time) Through that conversation, I obtained- "investor contacts for my "lists". I met a Realtor/Broker/Investor who has taken the position of being my "mentor". (Had a phone conversation with her as she contacted me initailly through "Realty Trak". I was doing some internet surfing and got a "one week free" trial and a "Realtor" contact!? Because I showed up. Because I held my head up and put on my best face, even thouogh I felt like crap, put myself out there,used the education that I got so far in the program - (first five topics in the syllabus and some information from Deans book).I was able to get all this and MORE. Meeting starting 6:30pm - 9:00pm. I left at 11:00 just talking with my new contacts and making arrangements to get together soon. Think I did post the next day (maybe even that night but I doubt it) the events but I wanted to give you a recap because of your great encouragement. Hope I did not bury you with all this info. Thanks for your interest in my little escapade. You all are so encouraging and supportive. Just incredible! Thanks again and the warmest Aloha to you.


Congrats on going to meeting!

Seriously, congratulations. Sometimes one step at a time is all we can take. By taking thjat step you can now take another. Keep moving forward. Best Wishes!

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There will be negativity all around you and reasons to quit

everyday! Once you get connected with your REI club and reading on this site and Deans books you will feel more confident in what you are doing. Knowledge is Power! Shame on the naysayers as they are too lazy to see life through a glass that is 1/2 full as opposed to one that is 1/2 empty. The only person you have to believe in is yourself! "People doubt their beliefs, but believe their doubts. Believe in yourself, and the world will believe in you." One final note "There are no limitations to the mind except those we acknowledge."
Happy Investing!


Agree

Keep taking action and building your knowledge, do something with real estate in mind everyday, be it bandit signing talking on the phone with somebody about their property, reading a book, just get your head into the game a little everyday, soon, you'll be closing your first deal making new friends and living the life you know you deserse., Taking action set us apart from the naysayers...John H.

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Blaze your lown path.

As I mentioned in my journal, I had to get rid of the "motivation suckers", the naysayers in my life. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it. Keep up the fine work and keep us posted.

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Thanks!

How can a person fail? If they just jumped in,took action and kept persistent and really, really, made that commitment to themselves not to give up.... if they are part of this site and participating in these forums? How? You people are just amazing! If I don't succeed in real estate investing, then at the very least, if I stay connected to you all here I would never have to worry about feeling alone and without support if I am letting "life" get me down. The point is however, that we DO SUCCEED,achieve the goals and dreams we all have, and do that by learning all the "tricks of the trade" through Deans orginization and through the support availabe here. I gotta say, as I have been since I joined about a week ago-This is the BEST thing ever that has happened to me (In this life so far-maybe ever!?). Making that choice and taking a chance- I mean c'mon... early morning infomercial? seems ironic...kind of supernatural in an odd way, but there it is. No looking back.
Thank you all.
Thank you Dean -


Still trying

Thoought I got it- how all this bloging and journaling stuff is supposed to work. Trying to keep cosecutive page(s) going and thought "posting new" would still keep things in here, but I guess it doessn't work like that. Hope it doesn't frustrate others that are trying to follow a "story". Ok, well I will keep trying and maybe we'll gete this someday. Thanks all! Smiling


Motoring On..........

"The Hawaii Kai Breakfast Club Meeting" Getting ready to attend my first meeting this morning. Going at the suggestion of one of my "clients", a retired CPA with a few "rentals"(investment properties). Basically a forum to "network", so, as I am learning, "networking" is an important part of this whole deal, I will jump into it with both feet. I'ts not "closing a deal". However, I am excited about this as probably "getting the end result" as far as making $$ on REI. The process is fascinating, and so much fun! Having interaction with you all on this site has also changed the way my life is (has,had) been going. I am (was), basically an "introverted", "loner", "keep to myself","private" individual. Very shy (working on it)& self-conscious. ( man,kinda scaring myself as far as "profiling" goes! Smiling ) Annyway, doing what we are doing here is helping me to overcome so much of that. If I leave here without doing any REI, I would have at least improved on my self-esteem and how much is that worth?!
I'll let you know how it goes. As I mentioned in my other "post" I will be taking you "all" along with me for "moral" support. Thanks gang! Hope to come away with this with resources I can share with you. Be in touch...... Aloha!
Oh, and P.S.- Nervous as all get out as I will need to get up and introduce myself, (who I am and what I do (business)), that's why I'll need your help.
Thanks!


5:30 am.

Meeting at 7:00. tick tock tick..... Smiling


Lithiumrecharge

There was times I just felt really stupid or didn't know what to do next just talking on the phone with people. You actually went and talked to people face to face, so I think you should hold your head high, because thats scary for some people.(like me)!
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There's all kinds people who are going to tell you can't do this or that(even "successful" people) so just nod your head, be polite, and don't pay any attention to it.
Good luck!

RENinja

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Bending

I don't believe it. The third time now! Put up a huge post and pressed something by accident on my mouse that took me off the page and deleted my whole journal post. Maybe someone is trying to tell me something. I write a LOT in these things. Ok here goes again. Making it to the "Breakfast Club" yesterday morning was probably one of the most important things to happen in my life besides getting hooked up with Dean's orginization. The meeting required casual business attire, which made me "feel" successful. ( I am usually in grungy jeans and a t-shirt )I forced myself once again to participate in a social activity ( so unlike who I am! )and a step beyond that, I actually "participated" The keynote speaker was "Roy Yamaguchi" the famous chef/restaurature, who I got to have some "dialogue" with during the question and answer period. I also met our "State Senator", who asked for my business card and asked that I call him "Sam". ( My folks and I got a chuckle out of that Smiling )I also met other business people that also wanted my card, so we exchanged cards, and I got a chance to "get out of myself" and practice "networking". I am really experiencing a transformation doing the things that the program requires for a successful result, as far as REI goes. I am not only learning all the skills it will take to "really" be a success doing this, but also gaining self-confidence, massively improved self-esteem and self-worth. Things that I only really "dreamed about" I guess-someday.....This program is giving me way more than I bargained for and imagined, and I haven't even closed one REI deal yet! Pretty amazing I would say. Thank you ALL for the continued support! Thank you! I want to say more but I don't want to lose this post again!? To be continued......Smiling


The only way you can fail is

The only way you can fail is to quit, it's all a learning process.

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Friends

Hi Lithiumrecharge, you know I never found my old friends that helpful because they never were friends any way alot of old down load I never need from the start.One day I got tired of the old stuff and desided to look up ward and my are there alot of stars in the sky and it was time to try and I reach as high as I could and I grabed a few and now Iam after the rest.Your on your way and isnt it fun and now with the right people your journey has begun youll wonder why it took so long but now your on the way and the work will become so much fun and the people you meet will be a real treat.We think that stepping out of the comfort zone will be so hard but in real realty its what we really need all along.If we want to change the out side we must change the inside( minds and our hearts)first and to take action and thats what you have done and it will be come real fun now, Jim

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Another World

What? has the transformation that I hear about in the metaphysical news/world happened? They said I would not realize the "exact moment", but that it would all of a sudden "become" a "relization". This is getting scary man!


Lithiumrecharge, it seems as

Lithiumrecharge, it seems as though you are "journaling" set aside for a spacific topic. I noticed your comment on this before. Start your own journail by going to the forums section and click new topic. You can title it Lithiumrecharge's journal if you wish.

Here is what I did. After submitting my 1st journal post, when the screen refreashed, I clicked (at the bottom) "bookmark this". Your journal will show up in "my Bookmarks" on the left. Now you can add to it as often and in as great detail as you wish. You'll see at the bottom of this post my journal link as an example.

Hope these tips work for you.

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Just Do It!

And don't let anyone steal your dream! EVER!

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Found a "bottle" - sticking "close"

Yeah! Just got through posting a blog. I guess the difference is just not that big of a deal! Blog/journal, whatever. I love doing all this stuff and it really keeps me close to all the essential moral support, as well as a great way to see in print, where my head is at. The great part about this is that if I am just thinking out loud and someone notices a "cry for help" there is an "emergency response" there-immediately! Really, not even much of a point of doing a 911 call- just check back in and shazam! There it is. Someone has tossed a life-line, or is applying cpr! No, really. What I had in my life before joining The DG orginization is - 0 -. Searching, through a whole lot of different avenues for??? Peace of mind? contentment? Love? ( Kinda reminds me of the song! yikes, it's going off in my head!) The strange part about this whole thing is the way it is comming together. I was instructed to watch some motivational videos on YouTube befor my first conference with my PMI coach. I came across a Zig Ziglar spot and was so impressed that I ordered the cd's. THEY ARE FANTASTIC! So now, I am really pumped! Listed to the first cd and just got this HUGE energy blast. It gets better though- As we were doing some cleaning, my mom is clearing out junk and I come across these old stained with age from being stored away for YEARS. Sort of like in the movies. Cobwebbed, dusty,dingey binders.... I pick them up to see what it is... big money stock/bond certificates? stashed $100.00 bills? Naw, it's a "Napoleon Hill" "Philosophy of Success" program. 3-ring binder with print and cassets, a package of inspirational quotes and a pack of "Success Vitamins" for the day. A package of cards ( a week on each side )that have an inspirational quote for each day. Unbelievable!As i started to read them I realize that I have just stumbled onto these "secrets". And they may as well be as this is the stuff that is available to all-yet so unrealized. Like having an old chest in your basement ( we don't have basements in Hawaii though! Smiling) That is full of treasure, that you thought was just "old clothes of some other junk". This is so strange - I am feeling like my journey here with you all and Dean's program is much, much, more, than me making some $$ with real estate. The stuff they talk about in Napoleon Hill's doc's are almost metaphisical, well actually, they are! They mention that in the texts quite a lot. Sort of like an "Emmet Fox" of business success. ("Emmet Fox" -"Power through constuctive Thinking") A "positive thinking" classic. So, I got all these goose bumps. When I start into Zig Ziglar, when I think about Dean's techniques and style of his success message, I see all that stuff in the Napoleon Hill texts. (This from a program from back in 1963) Here is the "really" interesting part though. Napoleon Hill's information was a compilation of ideas from some of THE most successful men of that time. It started off as a challenge from "Andrew Carnegie" as "Napoleon Hill" was interviewing him. The message from Dean,Zig Ziglar,Napoleon Hill, Emmet Fox and many other successful, influential Men/Women, all have the same basic truths in them. Powerful and mystical/magical.I am talking miracles. It's happening as I speak/write. Ok, sorry. This may even be getting off the whole REI thing we are trying to accomplish here, and if it has turned into a distraction-please forgive me. It's just that in this point in my journey here with you all, these coincedents/incidents, uuh.. anyway, all these "things" happening "when and how" they are happening is just bizarre. Umm... ok, back to the "real world"??


Lester

That is all great stuff and I hope you feel you have accomplished something in all of your extremely long posts. They can almost make you feel like you are doing something I know. However it is usually tied in with a form of avoidance. You have had ALL the training and done all the reading that you need to START doing business.
GO MAKE SOME OFFERS ON PROPERTIES THAT YOU CAN MAKE MONEY ON! Time to step out of the metaphysical and into the real world.
This is just some "tough love" from a fellow DGer
Start writing about the properties you are looking at, the buyers you have met, the contractor estimates you got on your subject property. IF you really want to make a business this time around.

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"Tough Love"

Yea, good point. However, maybe you forget that I'm not REALLY writting all this stuff for your entertainment-no matter how boring it may or may not seem. This is a "journal" as in "Diary"? Here is where it seems a little confusing to me. Public and open to comment. But oh well, it is what it is. I AM getting a LOT out of it. In any case, I am using it as a "gauge" for where I'm at "TODAY" and then the points along the way to where I want to "BE". Does it matter if I were the Presidnet of RE-Max, or a street junkie trying to change their present living,life condition? Thats the point the founder of this company seems to promote. The END GOAL. So, follow along if you like. If it's just irritating "noise" to you reading this "personal thought in print" then go read something else- Hey, how about the weekly blog for instance! Smiling I'd of PM'd you with this,but I do have a busy life. This way I knock out two birds with one stone. Oh yeah, and by the way, I am signed up with the PMI REI academy. It's really the first time I am getting into this, in an organized format and not just falling into it and fooling around with it here and there. Closing a real estate deal? I have no doubt that will come in time. Quality vs standard of living. I'll check with my coach and run your tough love by him. Also,if this is too much info, and I am breaking the format. Sorry. I'll keep a "personal diary" on my own. Thanks for the support and "tough love"!


"Solo" week

Phone conference cancelled out, lots to do however. Contacted other "investor's" through Craiglist. Need to follow up on calls. Getting really comfortable with the "scripts" I am finding out that these are the things I do on a "daily" basis anyway, with my regular business (contacting "prospective" clients, talking with the vendors, people on job sites, etc. etc. It's all about the building industry or peoples properties so it's an easy transition- talking "real estate".. just different details because of the different business... Fun stuff! Getting started this week with my REI "mentor". Getting through all the stuff I need to on the LBG side. Moving right along. The "goals" excercises from Zig Ziglars cd's are incredibly helpful. Getting a lot accomplished, have focus,more motivation and energy, and have definite goals that I target daily. BIG difference from the way I was living. Busy, busy, busy, but getting a LOT done. Just the motivational information I stumbled across is making a huge difference in my current lifestyle. No conference call this week, but I have no doubt that a lot will be going on.


Nice Job!

Interesting journal, I like following your progress as you climb each step.

A way to post without having to worry about losing what you wrote is to write in a document like Word or even notepad and then copy/paste into here and submit. If anything happens it's still sitting in your document page.

Keep moving forward!

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Ha Ha!

Hey, thanks Mark! You know, This being so new to me I think I was getting carried away- This is not a "forum for frustrated "novelists" Smiling Going to try to keep it a little shorter. Hust got through the PMI education material on "internet marketing" and it explaind what the blogs,journals, - all that stuff I had been in the dark with. Will try to keep within the understood formats. Example:


Ex:

So you see, I think I'm getting the hang of it....no huge page to lose, and keeping it going. Here is what's happened for me since the post you commented on. My regular PMI coach is out of the office this week. I was "stuck on a lesson but desparate enough to call the "helpline". The staff there DO(es)? answer the phone, but not only that. Yes, if you have a question or are stuck you will get more than "full attention" to your situation. Just incredible Mark!
So, I hung up with the direction I needed and they threw in BIG MOTIVATION / 100% SUPPORT / Personals experiences to make this thing REAL and service with a smile!on top of the great help. No web-cam but it comes through the phone. I hung up fully motivated, continued on my way ( tasks for the PMI program ). I contacted the "investors" on the list I put together through the internet searches and even though I only got a hold of a few- I hung up the phone with a bigger list of contacts than what I started with. One of the contacts is no longer in real estate, but refered me to some close past real etate associates who are still in the business and looking for leads ( and apprentices/associates/students) These are "seasoned investors" according to the phone contact. I've read this senario in the book and nothing but good comes out of these "contact" encounters, not to mention, the staff member I got a hold of today, through the helpline, shared his own personal experience with "fishing for leads" HUGE! who knows....?


Standing by for the credit info "Webinar"

Pretty excited. Just got finished readiing up on the "internet marketing basics" from the PMI education program. Much more infromed now on what all this "mumbo-jumbo", "connected" life is about. The terms are still pretty vague, but I am closer to understanding what the differences are, the terminology and how they are applied. Anyhow, it got me excited enough to register with Facebook and Twitter. Something I promised myself never ever doing. I had a real pride in resisting the technology - (just like cell phones, but now I expose my age and ignorance) Well, maybe the ignorance part has been exposed since I started posting on the site, but hey, at least I can change!? Smiling
Good or bad? I will have to figure that out here along the way. I stayed up till 1 in the morning figuring out Facebook and Twitter! Crazy!!! Twitting away at nothiing really. Amazing how the mind works. Great media for "connecting" however. The incredible technology of our time.


Network

I read somewhere that networking IS REALLY important in this industry. REALLY in caps because I know I read it from the books-and the posts I read here. Super excited about this Thusrsday. I will be re-establishing contact with an ivestor who is also a neighborhood friend who's moved out to the "West Side" to be closer to his "investments". This is the person who actually helped me get the experience to "negotiate" REI deals as he was starting out on his own quest, to being - ARM. In fact, I think as far as property owned right now, he has probably surpassed this. So, I know I have the experience to find/negotiate and have been part of the closings- time to do this for ME. The part that held me back is the mindset I had, that, was that I needed cash to start doing this myself. I don't know why I thought that way after some of the previous "book lesrning" and some small actual experience (unsuccessful)in Wa. State with REIing. Thats all neither..... (that saying!)now. With what I have now with DG and my peers here, I cannot fail! Actually "I" can fail, this program and the way it is set up, "cannot fail". I really think putting myself in the middle of this ( the mindset and enviornment of REI) will be a big help. Who knows? Smiling


Office clutter

Ok, since getting on track with starting into this REI endeavor, My computer is covered with "post it notes". I have never been so busy in my life! Between my daily "goals", errands, my day job, shifting into the REI mode, my daily routine is jam packed full. If I want to spend time on the site, I will end up going to bed at 11:00 or 12:00. That seems to be the pattern now that I have started this. Before, my routine was get up at 4am get my day done and in bed by 8 or 9.( and boy, all I really wanted was the day to be done!) Much of my time was "wasted" with reading the "paper" Certain television programs, that although were informative ( history channel/NGEO, it was really just "killing time".Some of those programs were really pretty mindless anyway! I am not doing that anymore. Every waking minute is devoted to planning/executing, then planning for the next day to get closer to the ultimate "goal". Got a pretty interesting situation that I have been following for some time now. Very intimidating, as the whole REI thing involves the sale of a, business/commercial property/and investment property- a vacation rental. I am really excited about it! Could be nothing or..... could be, well.... The complicated thing about it is it involves close friends who are now parting ways and splitting up the business. Everything about it is- "distressed". I'm going to run it by the folks at the REI academy ( my coach ) and see what he says. Stay tuned!